It's very interesting that Wade and James are asking for a trial before the biopic is released, Leaving Neverland was obviously an attempt to taint a future jury, now they are being played exactly the same way
and now see why.
and besides that.. i wonder why the jackson-family is not able to fund this project.
Janet alone could throw that money..
taj is a good guy and he obviously isn't that rich but the fact that his family not wanting to support it with their money speaks a lot doesn't it?
The estate are spending 100 million on the biopic. They have no money to help with Taj's doc?? Very strange
Since when did that documentary come out??? i dont remember thatDo you remember when HBO's lawyers tried to justify LN by claiming that the Estate had responded with its own documentary "Neverland Firsthand"?
Me either 8701girl. Just looked it up:Since when did that documentary come out??? i dont remember that
so its from the estate?Me either 8701girl. Just looked it up:
Michael Jackson’s Family Defends Him In ’Neverland Firsthand’
Journalist Liam McEwan spoke with Jackson’s family and friends for the new 30-minute film that responds to ’Leaving Neverland.’uproxx.com
No it is not.so its from the estate?
There are no prosecutors in a civil trialThis comment from Twitter adds a lot more context to whats happening.
Translation:thanks @fei_rock
Don't take into account the delay of Taj documentary. He can't release it yet. If a documentary about the cases is released now, it may improve public opinion about MJ to some extent, but it will harm the natural course of the judicial process. They will get into trouble. Right now, the defense is going to conduct very detailed discovery about LN's inconsistencies and contradictions. It's what we wanted, right? If Taj goes in the middle with this documentary, it will be counterproductive, because the prosecution will use it against (defense and everything related), ask for more discovery, and try to justify the publication of LN by claiming that the Jackson family freely published their own documentary.
Do you remember when HBO's lawyers tried to justify LN by claiming that the Estate had responded with its own documentary "Neverland Firsthand"? (And that the documentary had nothing to do with them, bc it was from an independent director). Well, that's what will happen again if Taj releases his documentary; WR/JS lawyers will ask for discovery, use it to justify LN, subject him to investigation, delay the process and this could harm the defense. Don't forget that Taj interviewed Mesereau, who is a defense attorney in this same case…
All public statements are very measured, and now more than ever. To give you an example, when I interviewed Taj at FeiKingNEWS he asked me not to mention a specific issue, because the Estate itself had warned him that talking about it publicly could harm the case.
So no, Taj can't release his documentaries now, regardless of how evolved his project is, because he knows better than anyone what's at stake. We have to be patient and wait for everything to end.
Since when did that documentary come out??? i dont remember that
No, it's just her.Was your head buried in the sand or something??
How could you have missed it?
This site seems to be lost in a bubble or something.
The lack or knowledge and information is alarming.
Perhaps you should join twitter(if you're not already on it) so you can be better informed about whats going in the MJ world.
Well, not quite, tbf. It's not just 8701girl. SoS has already said they didn't know about this doc and neither did I. By the time LN came out I was already immersed in at least two MJ blogs stuffed full of material pertaining to the allegations. I had enough on my plate trying to get my head around all of that. I have no legal training and I find this stuff difficult and time consuming. Not to mention various crappy, challenging things going on my personal life that year plus, you know, a full time job and all of that. Life, in other words.No, it's just her.
I clicked in here bc I thought there'd be something actually helpful but we have to do the petty criticizing thing ...this site isn't buried in the sand, its fans like you that have to keep us informed...isn't that the purpose of a forum? Do you expect legions of fans to stop life and keep up with every nook and cranny of this nonsense?Was your head buried in the sand or something??
How could you have missed it?
This site seems to be lost in a bubble or something.
The lack or knowledge and information is alarming.
Perhaps you should join twitter(if you're not already on it) so you can be better informed about whats going in the MJ world.
You guys crack me up having these little "contests"...no I'm not as whatever as you....ok...No, it's just her.
The Estate can use LN in court because it directly involves Wade and James, Taj's docuseries is independent of the Estate for that very reason, it can't be used against the estate because they have no involvement in it.This comment from Twitter adds a lot more context to whats happening.
Translation:thanks @fei_rock
Don't take into account the delay of Taj documentary. He can't release it yet. If a documentary about the cases is released now, it may improve public opinion about MJ to some extent, but it will harm the natural course of the judicial process. They will get into trouble. Right now, the defense is going to conduct very detailed discovery about LN's inconsistencies and contradictions. It's what we wanted, right? If Taj goes in the middle with this documentary, it will be counterproductive, because the prosecution will use it against (defense and everything related), ask for more discovery, and try to justify the publication of LN by claiming that the Jackson family freely published their own documentary.
Do you remember when HBO's lawyers tried to justify LN by claiming that the Estate had responded with its own documentary "Neverland Firsthand"? (And that the documentary had nothing to do with them, bc it was from an independent director). Well, that's what will happen again if Taj releases his documentary; WR/JS lawyers will ask for discovery, use it to justify LN, subject him to investigation, delay the process and this could harm the defense. Don't forget that Taj interviewed Mesereau, who is a defense attorney in this same case…
All public statements are very measured, and now more than ever. To give you an example, when I interviewed Taj at FeiKingNEWS he asked me not to mention a specific issue, because the Estate itself had warned him that talking about it publicly could harm the case.
So no, Taj can't release his documentaries now, regardless of how evolved his project is, because he knows better than anyone what's at stake. We have to be patient and wait for everything to end.
What the hell is Neverland Firsthand?This comment from Twitter adds a lot more context to whats happening.
Translation:thanks @fei_rock
Don't take into account the delay of Taj documentary. He can't release it yet. If a documentary about the cases is released now, it may improve public opinion about MJ to some extent, but it will harm the natural course of the judicial process. They will get into trouble. Right now, the defense is going to conduct very detailed discovery about LN's inconsistencies and contradictions. It's what we wanted, right? If Taj goes in the middle with this documentary, it will be counterproductive, because the prosecution will use it against (defense and everything related), ask for more discovery, and try to justify the publication of LN by claiming that the Jackson family freely published their own documentary.
Do you remember when HBO's lawyers tried to justify LN by claiming that the Estate had responded with its own documentary "Neverland Firsthand"? (And that the documentary had nothing to do with them, bc it was from an independent director). Well, that's what will happen again if Taj releases his documentary; WR/JS lawyers will ask for discovery, use it to justify LN, subject him to investigation, delay the process and this could harm the defense. Don't forget that Taj interviewed Mesereau, who is a defense attorney in this same case…
All public statements are very measured, and now more than ever. To give you an example, when I interviewed Taj at FeiKingNEWS he asked me not to mention a specific issue, because the Estate itself had warned him that talking about it publicly could harm the case.
So no, Taj can't release his documentaries now, regardless of how evolved his project is, because he knows better than anyone what's at stake. We have to be patient and wait for everything to end.
for someone who didn't even pay attention to the other rebuttal mini documentaries that are already out there, you sure are being judgemental of Taj.What the hell is Neverland Firsthand?
Taj had 5 years to release so much as a screen grab or a photo taken with an interviewee and he hasn't provided a pixel. If the MJ company lawyers get their wish, this trial may not start until 2026.
People expected a 2-3 year turnaround for this, max. The horse has bolted, and Taj has increasingly acted like a toxic fanboy lately so unfortunately I think that he is currently more of a liability than anything.
Also, people are forgetting that this was t be a feature length documentary - not a series. By the time Taj made this change a significant amount of money had been donated. He then released some episode titles like "rise of a king" "fall of a king" (paraphrasing) and I never in a million years would have donated to that kind of puff piece project- which this certainly sounds like.
His Twitter activity is frankly embarrassing and I hope he pulls back and stops focusing on such trivial nonsense when he is sitting on over a quarter of a million dollars of people's money. He seems like a truly nice guy, and obviously his efforts to protect MJs name is admirable but he needs to realise that he has handled this whole gofundme/project absolutely atrociously.
What were people on this site doing when this came out? It was all over the fandom and even the media. The guilters and the wade and James lawyers were aware of it.Watch it and find out
I'm entitled to be critical of him. Everyone is. If you want to defend how he's handled this I will not argue. I've made my points though.for someone who didn't even pay attention to the other rebuttal mini documentaries that are already out there, you sure are being judgemental of Taj.
Now I see even more clearly why he's taking his time and waiting for the right oppurtunity. Unless he gets a big streaming platform to buy it, theres no point in putting it out if even you fans won't notice it.
"Didn't do their part". Ok that's where you lose me. Just because someone doesn't share a fan made documentary with Charles Thompson, Taj Jackson and Brandi Jackson makes Taj off limits? Sorry, but that's not how the real world works.What were people on this site doing when this came out? It was all over the fandom and evil the media. The guilters and the wade and James lawyers were aware of it.
People on her complain non stop but a lot of them didn't even do their part to spread the truth around.
It's not essential viewing or anything but I think we all know that Brandi said Wade was an opportunitist at least. I've known about this doc casually, but no, it's not essential viewing at all. It has great context though.Well, not quite, tbf. It's not just 8701girl. SoS has already said they didn't know about this doc and neither did I. By the time LN came out I was already immersed in at least two MJ blogs stuffed full of material pertaining to the allegations. I had enough on my plate trying to get my head around all of that. I have no legal training and I find this stuff difficult and time consuming. Not to mention various crappy, challenging things going on my personal life that year plus, you know, a full time job and all of that. Life, in other words.
This thing has never popped up even once in my journeys around YT. Not one single time. I like Liam and he's done a good piece of work although the info about how the WR / JS lawyers could raise complaints about something like this is very sobering. I have always been of the opinion that Taj will have to move very carefully re the timing of when he releases his own project. I don't envy him.
I think it's a good piece of work. I was definitely more focused on the blogs back in the day but I did watch / listen to every interview I could find back then - Tom M, Brandi, Taj. I thought I'd seen / heard them all. This one from Liam is great bc he covers the essential points and yet is really concise.It's not essential viewing or anything but I think we all know that Brandi said Wade was an opportunitist at least. I've known about this doc casually, but no, it's not essential viewing at all. It has great context though.
here they are:Doing a livestream this Sunday. More details to follow.